ACUMA ONpoint

How Servant Leadership Keeps Credit Unions Relevant

Team ACUMA Season 4 Episode 106

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Want a sturdier path to relevance in credit union mortgages? We sit down with Andrew Harris, VP of Mortgage Development at Truity Credit Union in Oklahoma, to unpack how servant leadership, consistent culture, and innovative use of technology create durable member loyalty. Andrew shares the turning point in his career, from high-output producer to leader who listens first, removes roadblocks, and treats every file like a family’s future. His mantra, “one team, one member, one file,” becomes a practical system that connects development, operations, underwriting, and servicing around a single standard of care.

We get candid about the industry reality: big banks and brokers wield sophisticated tech stacks and aggressive pipelines. Credit unions can compete by pairing CRMs and automation with the one advantage others can’t clone: deep relationships. Andrew explains why he doesn’t “chase leads,” he “chases relationships,” and how a timely phone call, clear expectations, and proactive guidance turn rate shoppers into lifelong members. Along the way, we talk about hiring entrepreneurial spirits and wrapping them in a supportive framework, building a culture where challenge is welcomed, and sending daily leadership insights to every chair so the whole team leads.

If you care about credit union leadership, mortgage member experience, and sustainable growth, this conversation offers a roadmap: model the culture you want, modernize your technology without losing the human touch, and make consistency your brand. You’ll walk away with actionable ideas to strengthen service, increase referrals, and keep your credit union at the center of your members’ financial lives.

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30 Second Intro

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The views and opinions expressed in this podcast do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Acuma, its board of directors, its management staff, or its members. The podcast discussion presented is conversational in nature and for general information only.

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This is Acma's on Point Podcast. On today's episode, we're sitting down with someone I've enjoyed getting to know over the years as he shares valuable insights into leadership and staying relevant within our industry. A series focused on sharing the stories of people who are making a positive impact in the credit union mortgage industry. I'm your host, Peter Benjamin. Today I am joined by Andrew Harris, VP of Mortgage Development with Trudy Credit Union out of one of my favorite states, Oklahoma. Andrew, my friend, how are you doing today?

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I'm great. Thanks for having me on. I'm excited about uh uh being on here today and uh talking about you know being relevant in our market and credit union movement.

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No, buddy, I'm I'm looking forward to this conversation. As I mentioned, you know, we're gonna talk leadership, we're gonna talk, you know, staying relevant, you know, both of which are are really two topics that I find that are near and dear to my heart. So uh again, I've look I've I've enjoyed getting to know you, you know, sitting down with you, not just at Acma events, but you know, at at the Oklahoma Curin. And I uh truly this is gonna be a great conversation. But before we get to it, as always, gotta bring the Hawk in to give us the latest and greatest happening over at Acme. So, Justin, how are you doing today? And Hawk, please tell us what is the latest and greatest happening over at the Acuma. Um, hey man, Livin. I'm living in the dream.

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Living, the dream. We've got to finish this. We gotta finish it, man. It's if you're gonna start to like here with me, right? Like you're just gonna bring everybody else down. Come on, it's it's been a heck of a morning. Uh oh, it's been it's been a heck of a time, right? I mean, we are we just opened workshop registration last week. I know, man. Insanity.

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This has just been this has been I never would have imagined that 2026 was gonna be this non-stop, but it's been nonstop.

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I know. Everybody always asks, what's my favorite time of the year? I tell them November. No, man. It's that's when we get a breath.

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It's that that week off, uh, you know, at the end of the year that we don't do absolutely anything. That's that's it.

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Yeah, this is true too. But uh, so on that, workshop registration has officially opened. We opened last week, so if you missed out on the emails and the information coming out from us, uh, don't worry. It's on the website. Head over, make sure that you get registered, come and see us. We're gonna be in San Diego this year from May 12th and 13th. Uh, it's gonna be an awesome event. The agenda is rock solid. I mean, I I don't know what other good things I could say about it, but if you miss it, they're gonna miss out. Like I think last year people missed out on the rock, paper, scissors thing. So, like, who knows what's up here, sleeve on this one.

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Okay, you know, the what's it on on rock, paper, scissors. You know, I I talked to Skip the other day. Um he actually, whenever he goes to an event and he does his kind of like keynote, he's now using the rock, paper, scissors at the beginning of all of his keynotes to kind of get the the the group excited because I mean it was awesome last year. It's gonna make a comeback eventually.

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Yeah, I mean, I hope Skip is also saying, you know, he he saw this at the Acima work. No, he gave me a shout out on Switch. Yeah, like you know, we got we just gotta make sure we're getting that too, right? You know what'd be awesome, real quick? So I'm sorry to interrupt that.

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If we did it at annual, do you imagine in the general session room? Can you imagine 600 people playing a rock, paper, scissors contest?

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I like this idea. I think that would be bananas. Yeah. Yep. This is we're on to something here. Who knows? See how many people we can get involved in this uh and get that movement going too. I don't know. Let's still um outside of workshop registration, our viewpoint regional summit registration is open as well. Uh so this year we're gonna be in three different locations. We're gonna be in Dallas, Texas, March 24th, 25th, St. Louis, Missouri, April 14th and 15th, and Baltimore, Maryland, April 28th and 29th. So uh the first one's just around the corner. I mean, like we're we're a month out now, a little over a month away. So um there's still plenty of time. Those are free for uh member credit unions and QUSAs. So um again, taking the education, uh, just get there. Uh if you're close by, it's uh a day and a half, is what it really equates down to. And you get a fun experience to go along with it. Um, so outside of those, we have our virtual meetings happening. Um, the next ones will be um in March, uh, because today actually is the volume-based. So if you are listening to our podcast, and I'm sure you're not at the volume-based meeting right now, but if you're at the volume-based meeting, I mean you got to hear this a little bit late. Um, and last but not least, but our webinar series and our on-point podcast are happening all year long.

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You know, uh, thank you very much. You know, every single time you talk about our San Diego event, I I I I I I I keep wanting to say this, but I just never do. I keep wanting to quote Ron Burgundy, you know, Anchorman.

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Yeah.

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Um, you know, it's that quote from the movie where he's like, they named it San Diego, which of course in German means a whale's, but it and I'll let you fill in the blank on what what it is, but I I well there you go. I just said it. Anyways. Uh yeah, there you go. I mean, now now you've gotten it out. And I didn't say that. I didn't say the I didn't say the word that makes it funny, but um people can go feel a free free, feel free to look up that quote from uh Anchorman's first one. Um but yeah, anyways, just my first time. You you could tell the the mood I'm in this morning.

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It's all right. We're bringing that we're bringing that level of just living to live in the dream back up, right? Literally, I'm just um I'm a little punchy this morning.

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So all right, so thank you very much, Andrew, my friend. All right, so you know, I I as I mentioned, we're gonna dive into leadership, we're gonna dive into staying relevant, love that conversation, but as always, you know, before we get to it, uh, we have to stay true to the podcast. And and for and the way we stay true to this podcast is going back to our roots and and really sharing what makes us us. So to that point, you know, I always start with the first question, and I'm gonna keep doing it. So, Andrew, do me a favor. Before we start talking about you know leadership and before we start talking about staying relevant, please share with the group who is Andrew Harris.

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Peter, uh, you know, I I've worked for Trudy Credit Union uh for 33 years. Uh I started as a part-time teller, uh, moved through the ranks of being a loan processor, did a little bit of consumer lending, uh, had the opportunity to go up to our collections department and just kind of move around and learn lending and learn, you know, what makes us function as a credit union. Uh and uh I've been here for 33 years. Uh, you know, I grew up here at the credit union. Uh service was not a strategy when I began work here. You know, it was a way of life. You know, from an early age, early career, uh, I learned that members are not just accounts on the screen, you know, they're they're people who trust us with some of the most important parts of their life, you know, their deposits, their mortgages. Uh, you know, that mindset kind of followed me throughout my career. And and then further grounded me when I became a certified John Maxwell coach and speaker, you know, one principle has always stuck with me. It's not about me, but it starts with me, you know, and the leadership and culture and service all begins with personal responsibility. And everything I do today is rooted in that belief that, you know, the creating philosophy, as we all know it, that people helping people. Uh that foundation still guides me in every decision that I make today. No, I mean, I I love that.

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Um, you know, because we we all have, no matter how you how you frame it up, right? We we all have something inside of us that that drives us. There's and I'm not gonna say higher purpose, I'm not gonna say creed, um, or or whatever, but there's something that's essentially our fuel that pushes us along. And I I love how how you know you talked about service, you talk about leadership, you and and I I feel like everything you just said is is really what credions are all about, right? Those things. Um and I think that's one of the things that I love about our industry. It's about that service, it's about leadership within our communities, you know, showing dedication, support, being custodians of our members. Thank you so much for sharing that. And and I think that that that kind of just leads me to, you know, why I'm excited for this conversation because of how passionate you are about those things. And so let's let's first start with, you know, obviously your passion for leadership and and how you approach, you know, being a leader within Trudy, but not only that, being a leader within, you know, Oklahoma, you know, being a leader within our industry. So let's start with that. You know, how do you approach leadership?

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You know, from my perspective and over the years, you know, culture doesn't start, you know, with policymaking. You know, it starts with the mirror, right? We have to look in the mirror and ask ourselves, you know, do people perceive us the way that we believe they perceive us, right? That was one of the big things that I learned when I became, when we started working with John Maxwell probably five years ago, you know, in the credit union movement. I thought I was one thing, but that really wasn't how I was perceived. And I had to stop, you know, take note and uh look in the mirror and change that, quite frankly. You know, I felt like I was the one talking in the room, I was the one driving the room, and that is not the case. Uh, as you know in leadership, you know, you've got to listen, you've got to learn and and learn different people's uh, you know, their mannerisms. Uh, you know, if you want equal excellence and accountability and service, you know, you've got to model it first. I mean, that's the way it is. Uh, one of the things that we're trying to do, or I'm trying to do here within our our Trudy Mortgage team is, you know, we've got, you know, develop we've got the development team, we've got operations, we've got our underwriting team, and then we have our servicing team. And my whole thing this year for us is to start with one team, one member, one file at a time. You know, we don't want to try to serve in bulk. You know, we serve one member at a time. Um, every file represents a real person and trust that's trusting us with their financial life, you know, and I I really believe in my heart when all the team members are aligned around that mindset, that consistency follows through, and that member feels like they're the only transaction that we're working on that day. And that's really important to me. Uh, regardless of whose responsibility is what, uh, fill in the gaps for each other. And that's really something that we're trying to practice this year is that one team, one member, one file at a time. Uh that's something we kicked off our big meeting with last week. Uh, we bring everybody in, I cook them steaks, and we kind of kick off our year. And that was that was kind of our our setting there. So it's real exciting for us. You know, the other thing about leadership for me is uh I worked for my team. You know, uh I truly believe that that I work for them. Nobody works for me. Uh my job is to remove obstacles so they can do what they do best. You know, when leaders serve the team well, the team serves the membership well. You know, you've heard some of these big guys come out and say, you know, if you take care of your team, you'll, you know, they'll take care of your customers or your members, whatever that is in your light. So I'm a real believer in that. And uh I believe that when I get the opportunity to hire team members um that go out in our communities and serve, you know, I want to hire an entrepreneur that I can wrap in a corporate blanket. In other words, I want that spirit of entrepreneur to go out and serve in the community, do the things that are important to them, uh, be who they need to be, but then give them the tools they need to serve our communities, our members' uh best interest. And that's kind of that's kind of my philosophy in a nutshell when it comes to leadership, servant, servant leadership.

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No, I think that's you know, you know, when as you were saying that, right, you know, you it's you know, uh a united team performs better, right? And we as you were kind of going through that, it reminded me of a quote. It's it's actually from one of my personal guilty pleasure movies that I can sit down and watch over and over and over again. Actually, whenever it's on, I find myself watching it. The movie's drumline. The quote ring it on. No, no, no. That'll be funny. Ring it. No, it's uh it's drumline. The quote is one band, one sound, right? And it it's the reason why it's one of my favorite lines and one of my favorite things to reference, and uh yeah, maybe I do it jokingly, but I do love that movie a lot. It basically says yes, we are individual, right? But there's nothing better when we're all working together to achieve that common goal, though, are we actually making music, right? And music can really be right put putting families in homes, it could be supporting our communities, it could be providing the right type of guidance to our members, right? It could be all of those things that I just outlined. But in order for us to do that, we have to do it together, and it we all individually have to be leaders, but there also really needs to be that one person in the front I don't want to say leading the charge, but providing that rhythm that we that we all step to, right? Uh so I I I love everything that you said. You know, and I I guess you know, it's and I I love that you that you were with John Maxwell, and and trust me, I mean, I think there's there's not a single leader, you know, that I know of that doesn't have one of his books. And I was actually looking over my shoulder. I know people we this is all audio and I know people can't see it, but I was looking over my shoulder at my bookshelf, seeing if I could quickly grab one of his books I have on there, but just too far away. Um so I I I I but I so I have to ask, right?

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You know, leadership is a journey, right?

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Not only is it a journey, i i it's a path that can change as you move along in in your career, in your life, etc. What was that moment in time for you that prompted you to say, all right, I I I need to take a step back and be better for them?

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What was that moment? Yeah.

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So I was a producer for uh many years. You know, I was producing probably$80 to$100 million a year in my prime for the credit union. Uh we had a lot of lead generation things that we did for big companies, and and my head was just I was just looking forward to, you know, spending time on the phone with the members and do things. So we created this space to where, you know, the data entry stuff was somebody was helping me with so I could really focus on the relationships. And, you know, my whole philosophy became if somebody calls you and the first question they have is what are the rates, then you don't have a relationship with that person. You know, when you've done business with people over and over, you you want them to say, How are your kids? or you ask them how their kids are. And I learned that, and then I kind of got away from that for a little while. I started, you know, pouring myself back into the volume, you know, and and trying to reach for that as opposed to the relationship. And I found myself faltering a little bit, and it wasn't being a good example to my team. And so at that given moment, you know, when I was in meetings talking about volume, I was getting a little bit ahead of myself, if you will, a little bit arrogant on, you know, I'm putting the volume up, so we need to get all this done, and there's no questions. And I just felt myself turning into somebody I didn't want to be. And so at that point in time, I began to study John Maxwell. I wanted to find somebody I could follow that had kind of the same belief system that I had. And really, to be honest with you, I believe that what he teaches lines up with credit union philosophy. It's not about you, it's about others. And so at that given time when I was producing and being very competitive, uh, I wanted to, I felt like I needed to round that off a little bit. And so at that point, I stepped back and and kind of evaluated myself in that moment. Uh, even with my leaders that I was, that I was working for and serving, you know, I was uh I wasn't being as honorable as I should have been to them, you know, because I had the volume and people just needed to get around me and support that. And that really wasn't the right attitude. You know, it was about, you know, let's fill in the gaps for each other. Let's uh let's find our strengths. And I've always been a believer in leveraging every asset. In other words, if there's something somebody else does better than me, then that's leverage them around me, right? Because there's the detail stuff I'm not good at. Uh, but the other stuff I I enjoy and I'm blessed with, and and uh that's where I thrive. And so I had to kind of back up and evaluate that and then begin to surround myself even more with the people that fit into those places that that make me a better person and that I can learn from. And I, you know, I wanted someone to, you know, some people when they lead, they they want people to do what they say. Me, I want people to challenge me, but you got to get in the right frame of mind when people challenge that. And so that's what I did at that moment is stopped saying, do it my way, and stepping back a little bit and saying, okay, challenge, because that's how we're gonna grow in that moment. That's how I'm gonna grow as an individual, and that's how we're gonna best serve our members if there was a challenge within the body of a file. So it I don't know what year that was, uh, Peter, to to address, but it was a moment in time that I stepped back and said, I've got to change the way I'm looking at these things because people are perceiving me the way I think they perceive me. And that was a hard place to look, my friend. Uh, but I did it and I changed. Changed my attitude in meetings and I changed my philosophy and how I got through phone calls or had the opportunity to have calls with members and serve them and how to solve their problems. So uh don't remember the exact moment in time, but I will tell you it was when I when I realized that people didn't perceive me and I stepped into some some additional teaching and said I need to change what I want.

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I I love that story. Um talk about you know the the you know the the you know the a good character arc, right? I mean that that's you you you have all everyone has trials and tribulations. You you you you were vulnerable and shared that, but then you identified ways to improve, right? You know, I I see this on I say this to my team all the time, that and that they probably roll their eyes every time I say it, but you know, perception's nine tenths of the law. And so people are perceiving you one way, but you're really not that, or you really in your in your heart of heart know you're not that. You need to fix that, right? And especially if that that perception's a negative, you got to fix it. And I'm that's so awesome that that you made that that change, that conviction to improve. Now, the part second part of this conversation is about relevance, right? Relevance in our industry. And in many ways, you know, how we are as leaders can can support uh our our ability, our team's ability to be relevant in in our industry. So I I'd love to get your perspective on how we as leaders can support our teams, our credit unions to to kind of grow and be relevant. Because I think you and I can agree on this, we having been in the industry so for as long as we have, all too often credit unions are just not we're not relevant, right? And it's a struggle and we're often forgotten upon, right? I mean, you'd be surprised. How many people, when I, when I was working, you know, at Lafayette Fell credit union, I told them I worked at a you know, worked at a credit union, Lafayette, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, and they had no idea what a credit union was, right? Right? I'm sure you've you face that challenge. Oh yes. So how do we stay relevant, especially in this this industry, this this market? I mean, as leaders, we have to support and we have to grow and we have to push, and there's all these things that we have to do. So, how do we do that?

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Yeah, I think, you know, for me, uh we've got this whole thing with technology, you know, we gotta we want we've got to embrace the technology, but we still have to have human touch. Okay. We talk about lead generator, we talk about CRMs, we talk about all these things, and they're all valid and important because I will tell you if credit union wants to compete with with the large banks and the and the and the mortgage brokers, they're they're using all these tools because they don't have anything to start with. Okay. Where we have a database, we have membership base that we can start with. So, yes, we have to embrace the technology uh to compete today, you know, uh and keep us connected and relevant, but technology should never replace the relationship. Okay. Uh we can be digital and we can still be deeply personable. And that's where we got to find the balance. Okay. It's it's it's you've got to find that balance. Uh you've got to reach for both of them. You know, we're still in the people business, Peter, and we can't get away from that. That's what credit unions are. It's people helping people. You know, when even when all the technology, you know, we're still we're still in that people business. Uh and I will tell you the one differentiator for credit unions is the relationships. You know, I uh did something a while back and said, look, we don't we don't chase leads, we chase relationships. We don't, we don't follow up, we engage. You know, those are things that we've got to do as a credit union to stay relevant. Uh yeah, we can use the technical stack to to reach out and send things of value to our members and keep us in front of them, but we still have to pick up that phone and we still have to be relevant. You know, if we lose the human touch, we're gonna lose who we are as a credit union. So as I embrace technology and all the things that are coming our way to compete, I think if credit unions can find that balance of technology and human touch, I think that we will win hands down. And staying relevant will be, you know, it will come from staying engaged and bringing that value on a daily basis to our membership. You know, that means that we've got to invest in our members and our communities and even our teams to give them those tools to do that.

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And when we do that, and when we when we do that consistently, that credit union difference is gonna remain strong. And that's my belief.

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Uh you you use one of my favorite you know terms for you know for the the describes leadership, you know, consistency, right? Um, in many ways, you know, leaders show up every day regardless uh of how they slept, what's going on at home, workload, etc. etc. etc.

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And the more consistent we are, I personally feel as though the the greater success our team sees, right?

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Um you know, it it it's who said I forgot who said it. I think I want to say it was like Aristotle said it. But we are you know, it's the idea of you know we are what we repeatedly do. Excellence therefore is not something but a habit, right? Excellence is therefore not an accident but a habit. And I'm probably butchering that quote, and like I take full responsibility for that, but that describes consistency as leadership. So intertwined with leadership, and I love that you said that.

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So if I may add to that, thing about leadership too, if I may add to that just a little bit, the other thing that I practice, have started to practice is you know, we all go to leadership classes, we all do these things to make us the better leaders. But guess what? You don't have to be in a position to be a leader. So teach all of your team to be a leader. So when I get my minute by Maxwell in the mornings, that goes out to our entire team. I look at it and then I send it out. And so now we're, you know, we want to why are we holding that back? Why are we you know starving them from that? Because I don't care if you're a teller or you're a process or whomever you are, you can be a leader from whatever chair you sit in. So I always encourage, you know, leadership to don't yes, you can talk it and you can walk it, but now let's teach it. And so I think that's important too. And I didn't mean to interrupt you, but I wanted to make sure that I think this is your show, buddy. This is your show. When it becomes to leadership, that we that we say, oh, that's where they got that. Or that, you know, we're not trying to steal anything. Andrew's not anybody special. I'm learning from somebody else and standing on their shoulders. And so you make that okay when you show them what you're looking at and what you're trying to learn from. So I think it's I think it's an important point from leadership standpoint.

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I I I love that. And thank you for adding that. You know, so you know, you know, Andrew, we're we're approaching time, you know, and so we we it's at that point where we need to start transitioning to the second segment. You know, but before we do so, I I I have to I'm gonna keep asking this question until I'm blue in the face. It's a second and last question. I I always ask every single guest that that comes on here, you know, what keeps you going? What keeps driving you forward? What's your your your purpose? And you know, feel free to make this as personal or professional as as you like. But ultimately, you know, what keeps pushing you forward? What's your motivation?

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You know, Peter, at the end of the day, you know, I believe that that credit unions win when we lead with service. That's our philosophy. Um when we lead with, when we serve our teams, you know, the teams serve the members well. As I said before, the members uh feel the difference, and that creates that loyalty. Uh we absolutely must embrace the technology to stay competitive and connected, but we can never forget, you know, that we're still in the people business and relationships are our advantage. Uh it doesn't matter whether we're working, we're at a credit union or anywhere else. I'm talking about in our families as well, in our children. You know, I have three boys that work in the in professions and I try to coach them through theirs. So, goodness sakes, if I were doing what I'm doing now, hopefully, you know, I I would one of the John Maxwell things used to say, you know, he he he always talked about a story, and I'll move through this quickly. But his kids would say, Why don't you pay us to his dad would say, he would ask his dad, why don't you pay us to take out the trash, Dad? He said, Well, if I wanted to teach you how to be a trash man, I would do that. But I'm gonna give you a book every every month, and I'm gonna pay you whatever that book costs, I'm gonna pay you to read it. And I and I and and you know, because I want to teach you. Uh and I was sitting in the audience, Peter, and I went, wow, I I wasn't a very good dad because I wasn't thinking that way. And then I thought to myself, okay, he started that at a young age. I'm only 50 years old now. At the time, I'm older now, Peter. But at the time I was 50 years old when I was sitting in that room, and I went, you know what? If I can give my kids five years advantage on where I started, 10 years advantage on where I started, they went and I win. So don't give up on it. So that was that's what drives me is to pour into my children the mistakes that I made and the and the curves that they could avoid if they would just simply, you know, I can I can pour into them what somebody didn't pour into me earlier on in life, you know. Uh so even though I started late with my children, the key component of that is I started. And uh so that's really what drives me is showing them those curves and straightening that line out for them. And and you know, so that's that's mine from a personal level. The other from a credit union level, you know, if we stay engaged and bring real value to our members and our communities and our teams, we remain true to the we are, which I think is what we're trying to do. Uh, credit unions will not just survive, we'll continue to matter. And that's really what we're after.

SPEAKER_04

Love that. I absolutely love that.

SPEAKER_02

Well done. Well done. All right. So again, as I mentioned, you know, I enjoyed this conversation, but it's time for us to transition to the second segment of the pod. You know, the second segment is where we we play Jeopardy. Sometimes we do, you know, wrong answers only, that new game that we set we started playing. Um, although I I I I found a new game I want to try out, like the whole this or that thing. I'm sure you guys have seen that. But, anyways, today we are doing the most requested, highly anticipated, crowd favorite, the number one game that we play. In fact, anytime we play this or do this, the episode's guaranteed to be a hit. We're doing dad jokes. So, Andrew, I asked you to come prepare two to three dad jokes. Now, uh what we do is we each share two. If one of them bombs, we we we share the third. Okay? Okay. So what we're gonna do is we're gonna go around the horn. You share your two dad jokes, Justin shares his two dad jokes, I wrap up with my two dad jokes, and then we call it a day. Sound good? Sounds great.

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All right, man, hit me with some dad jokes. What country's capital is growing the fastest? What country's capital is growing the fastest? What? Ireland. Every day it's Dublin.

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That was good.

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I'm gonna have to give the credit the credit where's due because I was helped with these, so there we go. Uh the next the next one.

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What do you call a snowman with six pack? What? An abdominal snowman.

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Yes. Nice. Yes. Yes. I don't know why my mind went to like Schwarzenegger or something like that, but but uh I was going like more like kegs and beer. Yeah, you're going beer. You're going beer. I was like, C'est pap beer. Yeah, sir. Justin, you know, at least it's it's not even noon yet when we're recording this. Come on, man. Like I'm just saying, we're you know, I'm excited about our events coming up. Okay, there you go.

SPEAKER_03

There you go. All right, Justin, go for it. All right, uh, why did the employee at the calendar company get fired?

SPEAKER_02

One more time.

SPEAKER_03

Why did the employee at the calendar company get fired? Why? You took a day off.

SPEAKER_02

I hate I have oh my god. That was good. That was good. Good, good, good.

SPEAKER_03

All right, all right. Well, Valentine's Day just passed, so I'm gonna try to incorporate something there. So we're gonna take your service. I know. Where do you find love in a grocery store? Where do you find love in the grocery store?

SPEAKER_04

Uh huh. Where? I'll be there for you. That was good. That was good. All right. I like that. I'll wrap up. Um what do you call a line of men waiting to get haircuts? The main line. Nope.

SPEAKER_02

The main. A barbecue.

SPEAKER_04

Okay, yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_02

Alright, I feel like that one flop, but I'll I'll wrap up with this one.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, what's a what's what's a lawyer's favorite drink? Subpoena colada. Yeah. That one was good. Thank you. Oh, that's good.

SPEAKER_02

Subina colada. Um, well, Andrew, thank you so much for joining us today. Really enjoyed the conversation. Uh, again, I've enjoyed getting to know you at our events, but at the Oklahoma McCarin as well. Uh, it's always good seeing you, always have a smile on your face. Um, so thank you very much for taking time out of your schedule to sit down with us on our little pod. Um, my friend, you know, hope to see you soon.

SPEAKER_01

All right, enjoy what you guys do. Thank you very much.

SPEAKER_02

Absolutely. And Justin, as always, thank you. It was my pleasure. And to all of you, we know your time is valuable. Thank you for tuning in to the latest episode of Acuma's On Point Podcast. We hope you enjoyed it. Until next time, you will, my friends.

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